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Talmud do Królów II 1:11

וַיָּ֜שָׁב וַיִּשְׁלַ֥ח אֵלָ֛יו שַׂר־חֲמִשִּׁ֥ים אַחֵ֖ר וַחֲמִשָּׁ֑יו וַיַּ֙עַן֙ וַיְדַבֵּ֣ר אֵלָ֔יו אִ֚ישׁ הָאֱלֹהִ֔ים כֹּֽה־אָמַ֥ר הַמֶּ֖לֶךְ מְהֵרָ֥ה רֵֽדָה׃

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Jerusalem Talmud Moed Katan

From where for the Patriarch, and for the Chief Judge, and because of bad news? David grasped his garments and tore them3042K. 1:11., etc. 3052K. 1:12.They eulogized, and cried, and fasted for Saul, that is the Patriarch, And for his son Jonathan, that is the Chief Judge, and about the Eternal’s people and the House of Israel, for they fell by the sword; these are bad news306This is the definition of bad news for which one has to mourn. Babli 26a..
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Jerusalem Talmud Moed Katan

Does one have to sever the trim330The double seem which forms the end of the garment at his neck. Rending of garments in mourning starts at the neck.? Rebbi Jeremiah, Rebbi Ḥiyya in the name of Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish: David grasped3042K. 1:11.. There is no grasping less than a hand-breadth331Babli 22b.. And tore them, Rebbi Simon in the name of Rebbi Joshua ben Levi: From here that he has to sever the trim332In the Babli 26b this is required only for father or mother.. If a relative died, he rends. If another relative died, even if he heard about his father or his mother, or his teacher who taught him wisdom, he rends one tear for all of them. Rebbi Jehudah ben Tema says, he rends for each one separately, only that he shall not make that for his father or his mother as an addition. Is that not the first {statement}333Since R. Jehudah ben Tema only requires that for every deceased there should be a separate action of rending, not that a new tear should be started at the rim of the garment.? But he may not add to that for his father or his mother. Rebbi Ḥelbo and Rav Mattana, Yose ben Manisha in the name of Rav: Practice follows Rebbi Jehudah ben Tema. If a relative died, he rends. If another relative died, he adds to the tear and rends. How far? Rebbi Ḥanina said, until he reaches to his navel. An old man stated before Rebbi Ze`ira: Even if he receives another garment during all the Seven he is obligated to rend334He is not permitted to wear a whole garment during the Seven days of mourning.. Rebbi Ze`ira said to him, this you are saying about other relatives. But for his father and his mother even after the Seven he is required to rend. If a relative died, he rends. If another relative died, he moves three finger-widths and rends. If the front is full he starts in the back. If the upper part is full he starts with the bottom part335Babli 26b.. If both of them are full, Rebbi Ḥiyya the son of Rebbi Ada from Yafo says, he became shabby336Since in shabby clothing he is not permitted to lead in prayer, he has to get another garment and rend it..
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